Comments on: An argument I wish people would stop using: Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color. http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/ One atheist's thoughts on politics, religion, and philsophy Sat, 28 Mar 2015 21:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: Notung http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-156 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:49:24 +0000 http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-156 I agree that we shouldn’t just spout slogans – it can be both boring and unconvincing. However, I do feel that the analogy is a reasonable one, and can be used to illustrate what you mean if someone isn’t understanding you.

The thing to remember is that in a debate you need to be as clear as possible about what your position is. If this analogy helps with that, then use it – if it’s getting in the way then don’t.

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By: Dylan Walker http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-155 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:06:21 +0000 http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-155 I guess I just don’t see it as useful myself. As I said the term “religion” is so vague I just find it more effective to put the onus back on the theist to defend the claim at the outset, a more Socratic method if you will.

Ask questions and let the theist explain exactly what they mean. Otherwise we run the risk of arguing against a strawman.

Again, I don’t see anyone changing their minds because we use pithy catch phrases. It was originally said to be funny, but it is too over used at this point to be that anymore.

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By: Scott H http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-154 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:39:35 +0000 http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-154 It seems useful as another arrow in the quiver.

It can also be followed up with a little more explanation to drive the point home.

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By: Dylan Walker http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-153 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:30:18 +0000 http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-153 My point was not to dispute whether or not it was an accurate analogy but whether it was a useful statement to make in a debate. If you aren’t interested in changing anyone’s mind then by all means use it.

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By: Scott H http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-152 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:26:06 +0000 http://www.skeptimusprime.net/2013/04/09/an-argument-i-wish-people-would-stop-using-atheism-is-a-religion-like-bald-is-a-hair-color/#comment-152 The point is… Atheism is the absence or rejection of religion.

There is no sane way to label the very lack or rejection of anything as a type of that thing. Never. Ever.

The analogy between “not collecting stamp being a hobby” and “atheism being a religion” is tight and nearly perfect.

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